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Old 09-06-2007, 10:47 PM
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Let's say there're two characters with two different e-mail in the game.

Character A scolds a Wizard.
Character B was banned instead.

Is it right? They did not even online at the same time, and Character B was logged off and banned. It's quite unfair, let's say if you have a brother and he did something wrong with his account, and you got banned instead.
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Old 09-06-2007, 10:59 PM
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I find myself doubting that this happened. Wizards ban characters who misbehave, they don't ban random characters when someone misbehaves.
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Old 09-06-2007, 11:06 PM
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yup ur a lie 'n
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Old 09-07-2007, 12:12 AM
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When a player is very bad to the point where they login on multiple accounts to cause trouble after a banishment we sometimes will banish all accounts on that ip address. We realize that sometimes this hurts people who play on the same ip, but at a certain point we have no choice but to aggressively try to get rid of someone as there is just no way letting the kind of abuse one of those "brothers" causes go on. It just hurts far too many people.

It's also impossible for us to really know that there really are multiple players on that ip. Sometimes someone will say there are, thinking that we will take pitty on them and not banish all their accounts. In situations where we really believe there "might" be more than one player there will we try to take the seemingly good one aside and explain to them that if they cannot control the other person's actions than their accounts will be in danger of being banished and why that is the case. However, other times the trouble maker acts too quickly and too aggressively for us to take enough time to do that.

Also, it's important to note that in a lot of cases like this what happens is the trouble maker logs into an account that is on the same email address as one or more of the accounts another person claims is theirs. If what they do is bad enough we will banish all accounts on that email and people should keep in mind that it's against the rules for you to let other people use your email to sign up for an account as that is one of the few ways we can tell people apart. So, if you let them do that or they get access to one of your accounts because you failed to protect the password, then you are fully responsible for anything that happens as a result of that and the rules specifically warn you about this.
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Old 09-07-2007, 12:17 AM
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Oh yeah, but why didnt my brother get banned when he made the mistake, instead another account was banned... And one thing, that was a few years before, when I played last year, Arilou... you banned me for doing nothing. I was just chatting with some people when I was banned.

And yeah, It was a newly created account, it had nothing to do with any previous "Crimes" another guy using this ip did. I was just chatting with some new wyverneers i knew and was banned...

Can't I start all over again? Even though I did not do anything wrong. Chatting certainly won't get you banned will it? I was talking about wyvern and nothing abusive or what so ever.

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Old 09-07-2007, 12:23 AM
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I can only answer in general terms right now (i.e. What our policy is in those situations). If you want a specific answer as to why your account was banished then you should send me an in-game message when Wyvern returns and give me the name of the banished account. I'll then look it up as we keep records of all banishments and without them (I can't access them with the server down) I wouldn't remember you or what happened even if I had the name.
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Old 09-07-2007, 12:27 AM
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I find myself doubting that this happened. Wizards ban characters who misbehave, they don't ban random characters when someone misbehaves.
Nope, we're playing on the same ip address. I wonder if that answers your question.
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Old 09-07-2007, 01:09 AM
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Don't argue with Arilou, he is merely enforcing the rules. Even if you claim you did nothing wrong, wizards do not ban for no reason. I have been banned(temporarily) twice and both times I didnt think what I was doing was wrong until I realized what I had been doing. There is no point in saying you're innocent, but my brother isn't, when playing games where IP banishments are a possibility you always take a risk when playing from the same IP address as somebody else. Also, even if you or your brother really did do nothing wrong, what was the point of coming to cry about it a year later(at least seeing as the server has been down this long), or even coming to cry about it while the server is still down. You may think it's not fair, but you know what, life in general is not fair so suck it up and be on with your life.


(I would've used a question in there but I can't figure out how to switch my keys from the french symbols back to the punctuation points)
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Old 09-07-2007, 01:11 AM
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Cause I intend to clarify, not wanting to be accused for something I did not even do at all. Well, I came back just because I'm bored and wyvern entices me to play...
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Old 09-07-2007, 01:19 AM
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No, all you're here to do is to cause a stir. But even so, if you were banned there would have been a logical reason, there always is. You may not have thought you were breaking the rules but it doesnt mean you weren't. You claim you were just "chatting" but do you have proof that you were indeed just chatting, or even if you were just chatting you may have let some(a litte for a temp ban, a lot for a permanent ban) QI slip out. However, I will repeat it again, the wizards do not ban someone without a valid reason. Just because you don't think it is fair doesn't mean it's not.
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Old 09-07-2007, 02:08 AM
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Well, I'm sure Arilou will tell me the reason once wyvern is up ^^.
I'm sure he could access to past coversations too... as they did in the past. Well, no more for this tread *Close*
 


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