pure meleer build help

[orionsbane]

ok well i saw you can over train swrods if you dont have fw if that true and i want a powerful meleer (non pally)
i was thinking at 25
30 swords (over trained)
20 str
20 heal
rest i dunno 30 left over
thinking dodge and mabye lore lvl 1 for thigs like brvery and minor heal
anyone got a good pure meleer that can tell me if this is good?

[CasualCrisis]

In light of discovering that you are unusually stupid, I have removed what advice I originally had posted.

[orionsbane]

well thank you for your input

yes i know about spam healing (did you not notice the non paly refrence)

spam healing is a quick easy way to heal. im looking for something that wont need to.
well you havent answerd my question

the main one and reason of me posing this. dose over training swords help alot and is it possible.

also the points spread for spam healing as you mentioned uses 27 points if i save those and put them to str or swords the damage goes up considerably and my healing isnt suffering that much 20 points every second is not a bad thing for lvling (pk wise its already known spam heals and you win)

anyway you have missed the point if i wanted a paly build i would ask for one please read my post.

my question's are
dose overtraining swrods up damage alot (it adds some but wondring how much)
another question i jsut thought of can you dodge spells? (dont think u can but wondering now)
and finally would a pure melee without spam healing be good lvling wise. and what build would you recommend.

final point in case you havent noticed i have 30 points extra its quite easy to add the spam healing on top of what i have already. i may end up doing that.

[Axeling]

Originally Posted by orionsbane

ok well i saw you can over train swrods if you dont have fw if that true and i want a powerful meleer (non pally)
i was thinking at 25
30 swords (over trained)
20 str
20 heal
rest i dunno 30 left over
thinking dodge and mabye lore lvl 1 for thigs like brvery and minor heal
anyone got a good pure meleer that can tell me if this is good?

U really should talk about those things thats like a shortcut in the game if u get a bad skill untrain i many ppl had to waste more than 100k in untraining skill to train them agein im not agree that some1 help u. U can ask some things but not full *** swrd-men....just discover and explore, Than seem not fair for others players then u will see other player asking:

-naga with best things skills and stuff.
-full skill in mage. Or what shold i choose fire+water Etc.

and if this ur first character try exploring and training and untraining. I know ppl say choose wisely what ur going to be.

[Warcow]

for one thing, you can't even overtrain swords if you are not in the paladin guild... so, might wanna do some more thinking

[Unknown]

(i read you say pure melee... i think that’s not a great idea)
ok, it could be that the way i like to play is different that yours, but i don’t think that.
30 swords (over trained)
20 str
20 heal

is a good idea. For me the point is not "kill fast", it is "not die". and 20 in heal doesn’t help that much (well to be honest i dont know, i have never played with a character with soo much healing). i think a better idea for a lvl 25 human swordman is:
25 sword
15 str
7 lore
6 meditation
15 fire
7 spirit
20 fw (take some points to give to the arts if you think you need to)
5 heal

but to be honest i think that the extra hp that the guild gives is good (when you have high dodge you don’t want to be 1 hit KO), so i think is a better idea to stay with the paladin guild. any way more or less i think this could be the char i would like for a unguilded human swordman. Again, with rings, amulets and helmet give or take points of the set I’m giving (AND AGANE THIS IS ONLY AN IDEA, so far I have only made 3 hofer, and none of them was unguilded)

[orionsbane]

ok ty warcrow and unknown
so in other words to over train im gonn have to be a pally
that helps alot

and unknown i see your point thats why im asking
in yout build im guessing your lore is for mana shield (humans arent the best for hp)
and spirit is the same to up that skill so thats all for the surviving aspect

its not a heal spammer ty
anyway thank you for giving me a non heal spamming build i may end up using some of those (i dont get the 15 fire tho is that for spell damage?) i thought 8 w rings was full resist. anyway time to play around been doing it already with my currently earth magic melee human
reason im intersted in melee is because i want to wear the higher lvl armor
however bungleing is a large issue so wondering of forfiting spellbooks
using rods etc for the spells and going more melee based would be better.

[Jacksparow]

if you really want to be good as a healing human try something more suitable for what you are asking for.

spam healing Is, and Will be the best way of going through with this, and if you don't want to bungle rod heal (its the same as spam healing :P just more expensive. but less bungly)

so with rod healing. and i guess unguilded. here's my stab at this

25 swords
20 strength
20 find weakness
14 incantation
5 merchent
10 meditation

6 throwaways (AKA whatever)